The Fine Line

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  when in full submissive mode, i've been hung from hooks, taken a beating, been attached to things by my nipples, been half-drowned, had my bits stitched up as part of a show, been cut, pierced, scarred, whipped, caned, stretched, burned, candled, figged... and it's all been ridiculously fun. the state of "subspace" is where your head is in a totally different place, and your sensitivity to pain is greatly decreased. i don't get off on the pain, per se. i get off on seeing how much i can take. ps gentlemen, please don't take this as an invitation to send me messages suggesting any of the above. thanks all the same. at the hands of a licensed practitioner only. interestingly, when in vanilla mode - i'll pout for an hour about stubbing my toe. although being trained as a sub to take pain and turn it into, well, a turn-on, means that i can get through most things now. i was wearing uncomfortable boots the other night to the point where my feet were bleeding, and i was able to sort it in my head until i was getting quite turned on by it! it's the original mind-over-matter - a very useful skill.

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  would have to be when the tens machine is clipped to my flaps and turned right up...or the cane...nothing hurts more...or gives you a bigger shock hehe anything else...go for it roxxy

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'TassieRose' would have to be when the tens machine is clipped to my flaps and turned right up...or the cane...nothing hurts more...or gives you a bigger shock hehe anything else...go for it roxxy I am just learning to play with a tens machine and I think that is a lot of fun...I like to be able to beat the machine with patches attached to my cock I have to say full strenght is still a line crosser for me. Mine is not a submissive thing it is about establishing my power over pain...it is quite a high...it is very hard to explain how pain is not pain but a rush. Then biting is just plain fun :) LC

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  Well I agree with the zone theory. If I am in the mood its all amazing! But if I stub my toe...I jump around the house squealing too. That said MsV some of the things you listed were down right scary & I would question the sane & safe element. I cant see myself doing 1/4 of the things you said!!! lol TENS machine has got me curious now tho....hmmm And I love being marked up...so secretive & naughty to have reminders of the previous night under my clothes! mmm Mrs H xxx

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  When it starts to hurt hahaha In all seriousness though, I enjoy being bitten, scratched, spanked, bound and blindfolded. I like candle play as well and I can take some caning but not so big on that. I like sex rough sometimes and I know its beyond pleasure and has become pain when I can't stand to be penetrated any more. One type of pain I have experienced that I didn't like was the abrasiveness of a stubbly face on my freshly waxed mons . . . .ouch to gravel rash! WTG

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'MrandMrsH' Well I agree with the zone theory. If I am in the mood its all amazing! But if I stub my toe...I jump around the house squealing too. That said MsV some of the things you listed were down right scary & I would question the sane & safe element. I cant see myself doing 1/4 of the things you said!!! lol TENS machine has got me curious now tho....hmmm And I love being marked up...so secretive & naughty to have reminders of the previous night under my clothes! mmm Mrs H xxx welllll Mrs H ... i don't talk about that kind of thing a lot, because it's wonderful when you're in very experienced hands that you absolutely trust, in a longterm play relationship under specific conditions. outside of that - i even question having things such as "breath play" listed in profile fetish lists - it's certainly edge play and, as such, not something i would ever consider doing with a casual fling. i know what you mean about the secret naughty marks though - *happy giggle*

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  15 years ago

  ...of an innocent, having read some of the comments. MsV... wow... stitched up? Holy cow! I do like rough-er sex tho'... an ex of mine used to enjoy applying a twist to her wrist when we were enjoying some mutual masturbation... stretched the skin of my cock beautifully tight.... The first time she tried it she gave me that 'you don't mind, do you?' look... I didn't!

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  15 years ago

  I too question why they would put Breath Play in the fetish list...and it is not something that should be done by the inexperianced...i mean at least one needs lot of experiance. The needle play is edge play as well like the stiching up... Lots of thing will get way outside the play zone of most people. LC

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'MsValkyrie' welllll Mrs H ... i don't talk about that kind of thing a lot, because it's wonderful when you're in very experienced hands that you absolutely trust, in a longterm play relationship under specific conditions. outside of that - i even question having things such as "breath play" listed in profile fetish lists - it's certainly edge play and, as such, not something i would ever consider doing with a casual fling. i know what you mean about the secret naughty marks though - *happy giggle* Oh yes figured it wasn't a spur of the moment thing...Meet them on RHP, chat for a week and then tie me up & do what ever you feel like...I think not! Breath play...again I wouldnt go there if I was tied up...So much could go wrong! eekkk! But that said I love missionary when all his weight is on his hands & holding my neck! *sigh* makes me wet just thinking about it! I do envy you MsV...we just muck around a bit but would love to explore it more...you are one lucky girl!!! Its so important to find a/ someone experienced & b/ someone you trust! MrsH xxx

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  Various methods are used to achieve the level of oxygen depletion needed, such as a hanging, suffocation with a plastic bag over the head, self-strangulation such as with a ligature, gas or volatile solvents, chest compression, or some combination of these.<6> Sometimes, complicated devices are used to produce the desired effects.<7> The practice can be dangerous even if performed with care and has resulted in a significant number of accidental deaths. Uva (1995) writes “Estimates of the mortality rate range of autoerotic asphyxia between 250 to 1000 deaths per year in the United States.”<8> Cases have also been reported in Scandinavia<9> and in Germany.<10><11> Accidental death See also: Autoerotic fatality Deaths often occur when the loss of consciousness caused by partial asphyxia leads to loss of control over the means of strangulation, resulting in continued asphyxia and death. While often asphyxiophilia is incorporated into sex with a partner, others enjoy this behaviour by themselves, making it potentially more difficult to get out of dangerous situations.<12> Victims are often found to have rigged some sort of "rescue mechanism" that has not worked in the way they anticipated as they lost consciousness.<citation needed> In some fatality cases, the body of the asphyxiophilic individual is discovered naked or with genitalia in hand, with pornographic magazines nearby, with dildos or other sex toys present, or with evidence of having orgasmed prior to death.<10> Bodies found at the scene of an accidental death often show evidence of other paraphilic activities,<13> such as fetishistic cross-dressing and masochism.<6> In cases involving teenagers at home, families may disturb the scene by "sanitizing" it, removing evidence of paraphilic activity.<14> The great majority of known erotic asphyxial deaths are male; among all known cases in Ontario and Alberta from 1974 to 1987, only one out of 117 cases was female.<6> Some individual cases of women with erotic asphyxia have been reported.<15><16><17><18> The mean age of accidental death is mid-20s,<6><19> but deaths have been reported in adolescents<20><21><22> and in men in their 70s.<10><19> Autoerotic asphyxiation has at times been incorrectly diagnosed as murder and especially so when a partner is present. Some hospitals have teaching units specifically designed to educate doctors in the correct diagnosis of the condition.<citation needed> Lawyers and insurance companies have brought cases to the attention of clinicians because some life insurance claims are payable in the event of accidental death, but not suicide.<

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  15 years ago

  Breath Play can come into its own a little during oral sex as well....deep throating can cause the oxygen levels to drop. As can face sitting as well...not as extreme as the above but it can be as dangerous as well. LC

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  So Mike have you learnt to breathe through your Ears yet ?? i dont mind being a crash test Dummy you know...

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'Dellaroo'So Mike have you learnt to breathe through your Ears yet ?? i dont mind being a crash test Dummy you know... I am pretty sure you have great breath control so you would certainly have an advantage there...If I tun blue and froth at the mouth you better jump off for a few seconds...my breath control is not that good

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'TassieRose' would have to be when the tens machine is clipped to my flaps and turned right up...or the cane...nothing hurts more...or gives you a bigger shock hehe anything else...go for it roxxy Or where you being serious ?? Kisses Meeks

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'TassieRose' would have to be when the tens machine is clipped to my flaps and turned right up...or the cane...nothing hurts more...or gives you a bigger shock hehe anything else...go for it roxxy Or were you being serious ?? Kisses Meeks

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  15 years ago

  Quoting 'TassieRose' would have to be when the tens machine is clipped to my flaps and turned right up...or the cane...nothing hurts more...or gives you a bigger shock hehe anything else...go for it roxxy Or were you being serious ?? Kisses Meeks

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  RHP User

  15 years ago

  As a true Alpha...not just in play but in who I am in life, I have discovered over time that the line is often drawn in the mind. Pain or pleasure...or perhaps fear and euphoria, I woud suggest that they are the same. | The most intense experiences that I have ever had were those when pleasure and pain, fear and euphoria...encompassed every aspect of the moment. The physical release is indescribable...the mental and emotional release, far greater and impossible to describe to those that have not crossed the line. | And perhaps far greater, the incredible intimacy of two lovers lost...in body. mind and soul.

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