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Safe Sex
January 04 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
People slip up on the safe sex thing all the time. It's not like they intend to be unsafe... it's just that sometimes it happens. Maybe those people are being more honest than others who say that they always practice safe sex. For example... How many guys go down without using a dental dam? for instance. What about wearing rubber gloves so you do not get warts when fingering some fresh young thing.... really... we all take a risk to some extent. Sure condoms are a good measure to take.. .but that won't stop two women from passing something on to each other and then passing it on to their husbands. the only way to be safe is to abstain. For the rest of us merely mortal lovers, you've gotta do teh best you can... and get regularly tested to suit your risk profile.HugsStalky
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DonnaBrett
15 years ago
Yes it is astounding how many people are willing to take extreme risks. We all play with fire to some extent..like Stalky said in regards to oral & fingers etc. But for actual penetration condoms are a must...it's worrying when we see some profiles saying practice safe sex "When Required" or "Never". It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of some of those people and why they are willing to take such risks? Oh..and the excuse of condoms make it less enjoyable is a crock!! There are brands available now that are so thin you don't even know they're on.
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RHP User
15 years ago
And other couples. If you are having sex with your husband, does he use a condom? If not then you cannot say, in all honesty, that you always practise safe sex.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I'm not the experienced player that most of you people are, but I've never seen a dental dam, never noticed them for sale anywhere, and have never (in person) spoken to anyone who admits to ever having used one. As for latex gloves, I can only imagine the reaction of the girl I've picked up at the pub when I slide her knickers down her thighs and then snap a latex glove onto my hand. I think she'd run a mile. It makes the mood seem more like a gynacological exam than a sexual experience. Condoms, of course, are a very different story. I absolutely claim some loss of sensation even with the thinnest of ultra-thin condoms, but I wouldn't dream of not using one with anyone but my girlfriend. Do gloves and dams regularly get used at swinger's parties? What about condoms for oral? I imagine it's less appealing to a woman to suck on a latex wang than some real skin.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Abstain. Next best thing? Full body condom. There is no infallible way of playing safe. We just all do the best we can.
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RHP User
15 years ago
People can say anything. Person A could be having unsafe sex all the time and yet put "Always" in their safe sex box just to get some.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Those who think condoms mean safe sex are living in a dream world. I cant remember how many have broken on me. They ride up and don't protect the entire shaft or vagina. You could have five layers of the things on for intercourse but while in foreplay, while your and stroking her sweet pussy with your hand and then grab your own member you can transfer most STDs. Sharing a bath, spar or even the humble toilet seat can spread STIs The big scary HIV via kissing, and oral sex. Those hiding behind the "I am safe I use condoms" banner, do your self and your partners a favor (including you girls). Get a check up. If you are positive then abstain till your cured. The majority of STIs are treatable and not life threating. Also if you're with a new partner, take a moment to have a look down there, the most common STIs can be detected visually. If you don't know what to look for, educate your self, we live in the information age for god's sake. For me safe sex means regular check ups and educating your self.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks Krissy_G for some decent comments. There's so much misinformation in this thread. eg. A guy receiving unprotected fellatio is not zero risk. There are STIs that can survive for a time in the warmth of the mouth/throat. I would be interested to hear the methods of sexual safety that are commonly used (or not used) at swingers parties.
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RHP User
15 years ago
An interesting fact. Less then 200 people die of AIDS a year. Over 200 people die of cervical cancer a year. Many more from cancers of the vulva, vagina, anus, and penis of which 40% are caused by papillomavirus. 93% of cervical cancers are caused by human papillomavirus which is a STI infecting 80% of sexually active people. Some forms of papillomavirus manifest as genital warts. Papillomavirus is highly infectious. Propagandistic rhetoric has put the fear AIDS in the sexually active people but more then twice as deadly is Papillomavirus. Of the 12 posters on this thread at least 8 have it (and due to the high sexual activity of us RHP people, I would say we all have it.) Condoms only offer minimal reduction in risk. Strange how we ignore Australia's most deadly and common STI and focus on AIDs. Is it because its almost impossible to protect against? There is a reason women have regular Pap smears (name after the Papillomavirus) to detect cancers. But take heart, you are 100s of times more likely to die in a car crash on the way to your next sexy encounter...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Numbers in my last post refer to only Australian statistics....
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RHP User
15 years ago
mmmm.... rubber body bag....
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quote Krissy G:"Kissing To become infected with HIV you must get a sufficient quantity of the virus into your body. Saliva does contain HIV, but the virus is only present in very small quantities and as such cannot cause HIV infection. Unless both partners have large open sores in their mouths, or severely bleeding gums, there is no transmission risk from mouth-to-mouth kissing."I've spent 50 od years in Africa, the HIV Mecca of the world and I was involved with HIV from the time that it became known as one of a health team. I would really like to warn you re the above inacceptable statement. You only need ONE virus,( and if you get one, you'll get many guarranteed). The main danger is that theHIV pos person you are kissing/having oral with/having sex with, could have a very minor abrasion, minor cut etc, as often happens during sex and foreplay, with a minute quantity of blood present, which you cannot detect and in the foreplay or sex or from brushing your teeth you have a similar 'injury' of which you aren't even aware......you have a good chance of contracting HIV! The idea that you need massive bleeding sores etc is not true. HIV is not carried in the saliva as such but it is carried in the miniscule amount of blood mixed with the saliva, or direct blood tot blood transmission. You wont get it from a glass as you mentioned but if there is a fresh blood/saliva sample on that glass and you've nicked your toungue on that sharp tooth a minute ago and come into contact with the above saliva/blood mix you have a very big chance of getting infected. It is the same mechanism by which people who got pricked by a needle that was lying around can get HIV infected. Remember that there are millions of virusses in a drop of blood, theyre not the kind of thing you grab with a tweezer, and you only need ONE virus. In swinging or if our very trusty partners swing unbeknown to us, we are at risk! I have seen the devastation of HIV turned into full blown Aids as I worked with these patients from day old babies to advanced aged persons, its not a matter to take lightly! One only has to see the number of newborn babies that die within a couple of days from the effects of being born HIV positive to realise that this is a serious matter. In Oz we are lucky in that the infection rate is relatively low, but due to certain loopholes in screening people arriving from heavily infected countries, either as migrants or visiting, the % has been steadily rising. Your HIV test only proofs one of two things: 1) At the time of collecting the bloodsample you were HIV negative but as there is a short incubation period you could be positive by the time you get your results. 2) If however you get an HIV positive result you will not become negative. Some people play russian roulette without checking the gun,some check the gun and think they'll be firing an empty chamber but the only 100% safe way is not to play with the gun! You play....You're at risk!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67'Those who think condoms mean safe sex are living in a dream world. I cant remember how many have broken on me. They ride up and don't protect the entire shaft or vagina. You could have five layers of the things on for intercourse but while in foreplay, while your and stroking her sweet pussy with your hand and then grab your own member you can transfer most STDs. Sharing a bath, spar or even the humble toilet seat can spread STIsThe big scary HIV via kissing, and oral sex.For me safe sex means regular check ups and educating your self.Oh please... bath, spar (lol) and kissing. You forgot to mention elevator buttons and handles on public transport as the primary modes of HIV transmission. That and the fact you can get pregnant giving head unless you drink Coke afterwards.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'ToyWithMe' I've never seen a dental dam, never noticed them for sale anywhere, and have never (in person) spoken to anyone who admits to ever having used one. As for latex gloves, I can only imagine the reaction of the girl I've picked up at the pub when I slide her knickers down her thighs and then snap a latex glove onto my hand. I think she'd run a mile.I've seen people using dental dams... and full latex body suits... kinky fuckers.... oh and that girl running a mile from the latex gloved hand. ... I know at least two players who love the feel of a smooth glistening latex gloved hand up their twat... expressly request it in fact.... but then they're kinky buggers through and through... god knows how they would react if I put on a doctor's uniform AND the latex gloves!HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Oh please... bath, spar (lol) and kissing. You forgot to mention elevator buttons and handles on public transport as the primary modes of HIV transmission. That and the fact you can get pregnant giving head unless you drink Coke afterwards. I hired a pair of leather pants this one time.... honest. :pHugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
My Gyno assures me that you can get syphillis wearing a condom AND from only kissing. Going to go and live in a sterile bubble now and never venture out into the real world. Obvioulsy the human race is way too disease riddled. Waiting for the appocolypse!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Polar_Bear_Girl'mmmm.... rubber body bag....Would a sheet of plastic bubble wrap do the same job? Always wanted to try that...add a bottle of scented massage oil.....
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' FYI Kissing To become infected with HIV you must get a sufficient quantity of the virus into your body. Saliva does contain HIV, but the virus is only present in very small quantities and as such cannot cause HIV infection. Unless both partners have large open sores in their mouths, or severely bleeding gums, there is no transmission risk from mouth-to-mouth kissing. Sneezing, coughing, sharing glasses/cups, etc HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host, except under strictly controlled laboratory conditions. HIV does not survive well in the open air, and this makes the possibility of this type of environmental transmission remote. In practice no environmental transmission has been recorded. This means that HIV cannot be transmitted through spitting, sneezing, sharing glasses, cutlery, or musical instruments. You also can't be infected in swimming pools, showers or by sharing washing facilities or toilet seats. This post is worth repeating. I would add that saliva actually kills HIV... but the bleeding gums risk is a real risk, albeit small. Ejaculate fluid can contain small quantities of the HIV virus. You are more likely to contract HIV from a person who doesn't know they have it because their viral load is more likely to be very high.. whereas a person who knows they have HIV and is being medicated for it will have a low viral load. That's why regular testing is very important for promiscuous people.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Would a sheet of plastic bubble wrap do the same job? Always wanted to try that...add a bottle of scented massage oil..... You should try a raw waterbed bladder (still filled with water o'course)... that has been smeared in olive oil. Wooohooo!HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
For all those proclaiming that '.. if it isn't on it isn't in ..' how do you perform oral sex, should the condom be on then? Secondly, for those bi women who wouldn't touch a bareback male, do you have any hesitation going down on another women, specially since squirting seems to be the norm now? Wouldn't that be exactly the same thing - a transfer of bodily fluids?Mooka
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RHP User
15 years ago
have done the oil on the waterbed before slip slide fun and as for safe sex sometimes ,,,,,yes that is right with me but then again I only have sex sometimes too Andy xxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'mooka' specially since squirting seems to be the norm now? Wouldn't that be exactly the same thing - a transfer of bodily fluids? Nah Mooka. Squirters are the same women who piss themselves laughing and HIV won't survive in piss. :p None the less, people going down on each other without protection gives rise to teh potential for STD's which was precisely my point... condoms and regular testing or abstinence!HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Really, Stalky's got it down pat, as you'd expect from one so filthy and wise. Condoms and testing. The testing is imperative, most things you can knock on the head with antibiotics if they're treated soon enough. Other things won't kill you (and they don't even test for them in the swag of standard urine/blood STI tests) and are a minor inconvenience occassionally. As my mate (of course he's gay) says "If you haven't caught herpes you're just not fucking enough". Now I'm chortling at quoting a dude who has HIV and Hep C and HSV and fuck knows what else on a "safe sex" forum.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' My Gyno assures me that you can get syphillis wearing a condom AND from only kissing. Going to go and live in a sterile bubble now and never venture out into the real world. Obvioulsy the human race is way too disease riddled. Waiting for the appocolypse! move over...im moving in too roxxy
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RHP User
15 years ago
Woodyguyperth. It is possible to have sex with a person who has HIV and not contract it. Not that I would recommend that anyone put that advise to the test... but the reality is that people do have sex unknowingly with other people who are HIV positive and are lucky enough not to contract HIV. Just as people do have needle stick accidents and do not contract HIV. I am not trying to talk down the insidious nature of the risk, but scare mongering is not the answer. Scare mongering in my opinion tends to make people choose NOT to know! And that's a worse risk for public health than any. I'm told that the risk of contracting HIV by receiving penetrative anal sex from a person who is positive is approximately 5%. That's actually low... one chance in 20. Russian roullette with a 20 chamber gun. The risk reduces if you are doing the penetrating to around 3% ... and the risk increases if that person cums in your bum. That's a viral load right there.. but it is far from an absolute certainty that the recipient of that cum will contract HIV. It is a fact that the risk increases when it involves a person who has a higher viral load blood count.Onlythebest50 - read my statement again. Ive not said that anyone would knowingly have sex with a person who has HIV. The same cannot be said of people who knowingly have HIV. Worse still... people who have HIV and do not know.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
We have put "if required" on our profile because we have only been with each other for the last 10 years therefore we don't practise safe sex with each other but when we find someone to invite into our bedroom OF COURSE we will be "safe" to protect ourselves and our new partner (even though we are both guaranteed clean). So unless we wanted to lie on our profile we had to list "if required" otherwise it just makes a joke out of the whole honest profile concept. I'm hoping that other people who have listed if required/sometimes on their profile are just in similar situations to us. For those who list NEVER, we agree that it is stupid and they are playing Russian Roulette with thier lives and others.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'onlythebest50' Wonder, If you have HIV and you know you have and you choose to have sex with others even with condoms without telling them..You know... I really don't think people with HIV run around telling everyone they meet that they're positive..... Just trying to be realistic here... you've got to take responsibility for your own protection...plus... I'm also informed that these days people with HIV can live relatively normal sex lives without infecting their partner... so your radical views aren't sustainable.Just my thoughts. HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Maybe i am a bit Naive, but how do you actually have totally safe sex? Like, no kissing? No Oral? Just intercourse with condoms? Someone help please!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Maxking2010' Maybe i am a bit Naive, but how do you actually have totally safe sex? Like, no kissing? No Oral? Just intercourse with condoms? Someone help please!! Just stay at home and help yourself. lol. The only realy safe sex is abstinence...as has already been pointed out by others. Maybe join Roxxy and I in our sterile bubble....but please wait three months and get tested for all insundry before entering the bubble.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Maxking2010' Maybe i am a bit Naive, but how do you actually have totally safe sex? Like, no kissing? No Oral? Just intercourse with condoms? Someone help please!! Whats talked about in the forums is bent to each persons lifestyle and beliefs, the answers are in the posts above. But what we would recommend if you take safe sex seriously is: Make an appointment at your local sex clinic, get tested for everything, get immunised, tell them you play and how, and how you would like too. And let the professionals tell you as independant unbaised advice, how to do it safely. Our 1st appointment was from 1-30pm to 3-30pm lots of questions answered , we are glad we went. Still have to go back for our 3rd hep b booster just to be safe. For example the clinic says to us, we are a good couple and dont want to see us again, but obviously some of the advise above says continous monitoring so the health professionals are saying due to the way you play we need to keep a eye on your health. If we specified what we thought on the forums here we would have lots of negative stuff directed to us. Stalky suggested it months ago, to visit a sex clinic and take their advise......that was one bit of excellent advise. By the way its all free, no medicare card, you are just a number, and the nurses are hard case nothing would shock and overall a lot of fun......we have this huge bag of flavoured condoms.....good excuse.....hey wifey would you like to try this flavour!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
surely if you and your casual date get organised and tested before the meet up, then condoms may not be required...I for one hate using them, don't often play with new partners and always get new partners to show a very recent clean bill of health. No STIs to date and no condoms. I think cumming inside a partner is one of the best parts about sex, just check you are both clean and have fun!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I wonder how many posting here have actually seen and worked with people who have died from mainly pneumonia because their imune system has been compromised. HIV does not cause the death btw. Can my previous post what you want, I really don't care but I'm not the person who will take HIV lightly. African HIV is not different KrissyG, its just that the incidence in Australia is still very low. Anyways I've given my opinion from experience having worked in an institution where 85% of babies born during that period were HIV positive. Ultumately every person has to take responsibility for their own actions.Cheers
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RHP User
15 years ago
I origionally had a sometimes for safe sex on my profile because In the past I have had unprotected sex with partners after going out for a few months and both getting tested, surely anyone that has been in a long term relationship would have had unprotected sex at some point during that relationship, so does this not make them really a "sometimes" person?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'Maxking2010' Maybe i am a bit Naive, but how do you actually have totally safe sex? Like, no kissing? No Oral? Just intercourse with condoms? Someone help please!! Just stay at home and help yourself. lol. The only realy safe sex is abstinence...as has already been pointed out by others. Maybe join Roxxy and I in our sterile bubble....but please wait three months and get tested for all insundry before entering the bubble.Fionabee..i thinnk your right..please move over so i can enter the bubble!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Maxking2010' Maybe i am a bit Naive, but how do you actually have totally safe sex? Like, no kissing? No Oral? Just intercourse with condoms? Someone help please!! Safe sex is easy.... you need to be be in a monogomous relationship with someone who has also been tested clean. You'll find that there are always underlying practical reasons for all of the old social rituals..HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hi All, Interesting reading here. I like the way that some of these threads digress and sometimes turn full circle on themselves:) Safe Sex! Hairy or smooth! Safe Sex! The trend at the moment seems to be for smooth and sexy so there are lots of us shaving parts that never used to get shaved before!!! I guess this could increase the risks of STI transmission due to small nicks and unseen abrasions, therefore condoms make sense if you want to help protect yourself and others. I've just come out of a very long term relationship where there was no sex for years. I'm now trying to catch up with lost time:) but I will only do it if I feel safe - you should too Here's the loop! smooth or hairy down below? Maybe another subject Have safe fun Calum
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RHP User
15 years ago
I'd just like to clarify a common misconseption, 4 weeks after unsafe sex all STI's can be identified via blood and urine tests. It was perhaps 3 months some time back but that is no longer the case.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67'An interesting fact.Less then 200 people die of AIDS a year.Over 200 people die of cervical cancer a year. Many more from cancers of the vulva, vagina, anus, and penis of which 40% are caused by papillomavirus.93% of cervical cancers are caused by human papillomavirus which is a STI infecting 80% of sexually active people. Some forms of papillomavirus manifest as genital warts. Papillomavirus is highly infectious. Propagandistic rhetoric has put the fear AIDS in the sexually active people but more then twice as deadly is Papillomavirus. Of the 12 posters on this thread at least 8 have it (and due to the high sexual activity of us RHP people, I would say we all have it.)Condoms only offer minimal reduction in risk.Strange how we ignore Australia's most deadly and common STI and focus on AIDs. Is it because its almost impossible to protect against?There is a reason women have regular Pap smears (name after the Papillomavirus) to detect cancers.But take heart, you are 100s of times more likely to die in a car crash on the way to your next sexy encounter... isnt this what the Gardisil vaccine was designed for????? Top help combat this issue??? Kisses Focus
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67'There is a reason women have regular Pap smears (name after the Papillomavirus) to detect cancers. Sorry I am a bit of a fan of trivia and always like information to be correct...The Papsmear was named after George Papanicolaou who developed the test. | | LC
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'play_kitten80'surely if you and your casual date get organised and tested before the meet up, then condoms may not be required...I for one hate using them, don't often play with new partners and always get new partners to show a very recent clean bill of health. No STIs to date and no condoms. I think cumming inside a partner is one of the best parts about sex, just check you are both clean and have fun! Hi play_kitten80, Not sure that would be practical, to be tested everytime u intend meeting someone. What about the unexpected booty calls, or last minute get togethers. Also someone might have been tested a week ago, but may have been infected since then..... I agree, cumming inside is nice, but its not worth that short thrill if u ask me....
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RHP User
15 years ago
I was splitting hairs. For a person to be convicted for attempted murder, logically they would have to be shown to be trying to murder someone. Anyone who runs around spreading HIV without regard ought to cop that conviction sweet. What you said was that a person with HIV who uses condoms should also be arrested for attempted murder... I don't agree with that. Why would they bother with a condom? Truth is, if the person you are fucking doesn't care if you are not using a condom... you should assume that they already are HIV+. Quoting 'onlythebest50' Not sure if my views you can call radical when the police did arrest that African guy for infecting Aussie girls with HIV having unprotected sex and failing to tell them. I was curious if he was convicted and what type of imprisonment he got
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks LoveCurvie for the correction. focusliason: Gardisil vaccine protects against only 4 types of human papillomavirus (HPV) and is only really effective for people under 26 years of age. It does significant reduce the cancer risk. GARDASIL helps protect against 2 types of HPV that cause about 75% of cervical cancer cases, and 2 more types that cause 90% of genital warts cases, 70% of vaginal cancer cases and up to 50% of vulvar cancer cases. If your under 26 go to the doctor and ask for a vaccination. It may well save your life. But must point out that there are 80 known HPV strains and is the most common STI in Australia. Also as stated before it can be transmitted via toilet seats, in a spar, pool or bath and many other means. Having HPV, unlike AIDS, is not a death sentence but because of it prevalence, it is the deadliest STI in Australia. In regard to AIDS. In 1990 over 1000 people where diagnosed with AIDS, in 2009 there where only 90. The chance of meeting someone with undiagnosed AIDS is very low, there may be only a 100 or so in Australia. There are around 18000 Australians with AIDS and ill throw the book at them I they dont inform me before sex, via both civil and criminal courts. Mark
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RHP User
15 years ago
stalky: It is a manslaughter charge for having sex, or murder for deliberately infecting, but only if the victim is dead as a result of the infection, other wise it is grievous bodily harm (GBH). AIDS does not kill everyone that has it, a legal loop hole that has made attempted murder unattainable in the courts. Also a GBH charge requires specific intent and an AIDS carrier that does not inform you of their condition can seldom be shown to have intent to harm. Imagine the chaos if every one that got a STI that has the potential to kill went for murder, manslaughter or GBH. The courts would grind to a halt....
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RHP User
15 years ago
Since my breakup 3 years ago I have been very sexually active. As I have moved about a bit I have been going to several different doctors to get tested. I should warn people that get a test at your local GP, not to just except their procedures as they differ from GP to GP and can miss STIs. Demand that they take blood and urine samples, a genital swab, including the anus if you have anal sex, and finally a visual exam, which again may need to include internal anal exam if you engage in anal sex. It was not until my forth exam that the doctor informed me that the Blood test is inadequate. So far all is good. Im due for another one next month.
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RHP User
15 years ago
My husband and i have if required on our profile because we use condoms when required, meaning having sex with other people it's required but having sex with each other not required. That's why we are 'if required' Hmmm... I sure said 'if required' alot... Cait xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67' Since my breakup 3 years ago I have been very sexually active. As I have moved about a bit I have been going to several different doctors to get tested.There should be a sex health clinic you can go to rather than a GP. The doctors at the sex clinic are steely faced experts in sexual health and nothing you say or do will shock them... so you can be completely open and honest without fear of lining yourself up for a morality lecture! Plus, they recognise the visual symptoms, and set you a personal risk profile and testing regime based on your sexual activities. Last time I went in, the doc noticed a rash on my chest and was concerned that I might have caught syphalis... wanted to inject me then and there without waiting for test results just to be sure.. (lol bloody risk profiles - I guess she figured I'd be out having sex that afternoon spreading it around).... Anyway I tried to assure her that it was just that I was a little embarrassed by all the probing without even inviting me to dinner .... and besides... the same thing happens to me when I'm about to cum so that's just how my body works... So she let me go without the shots... then phoned me 1 hour later to ask if the rash had gone (which of course it had. Syphalis? Who me? huff). Anyway, they really know there stuff and are prepared for anything. GP's just don't have access to that kind of instant treatment and once you leave a GP's office, you're on your own!HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hepatitis C is more prevalent than HIV and the damage it does to the liver is irreparable. Hep C is transmitted in similar ways to HIV but for some reason seems to transmit more readily. Another important point in regard to HIV - if you think you may have had recent sex with someone infected with HIV get your butt down to the local sexual health clinic right away, asap, just do it!!! There is a medication that you can take which may prevent the HIV virus from taking hold in the body. The side effects are not nice but then neither is being infected with HIV. This is just in case of emergency like a condom breaking with someone you know is infected or in case of rape.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT'Hepatitis C is more prevalent than HIV and the damage it does to the liver is irreparable. We are under the impression when you go to a sex clinic and you tell them you indulge in rimming (arse licking) anal sex or any type of anal play, You will be offered a HepC immunization along with continuous monitering. Even with condoms. Its a shitty infection Play Safe people its more than just condoms!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67' If your under 26 go to the doctor and ask for a vaccination. It may well save your life. But must point out that there are 80 known HPV strains and is the most common STI in Australia. Also as stated before it can be transmitted via toilet seats, in a spar, pool or bath and many other means. Having HPV, unlike AIDS, is not a death sentence but because of it prevalence, it is the deadliest STI in Australia. Mark I am older then 26 but my doctor knowing my sexual habits and the fact that i have only ever had clear Pap smears felt that I was the perfect candidate to get the cervical vaccine. It was three simple needles over a period of time and yes it did cost me becuase I was no longer in the free age group but I feel it was worth it. More people in the lifestyle should get it both males and females!
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RHP User
15 years ago
That's it, I am giving up my bad ways! No more sex....... ever!!! Mrs G x totally terrified sex maniac!
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RHP User
15 years ago
We can be vaccinated for hep A and B but not C. Sorry Hotqld45 you may have been misinformed. Also for many clinics the only monitoring done is the DIY kind.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT'We can be vaccinated for hep A and B but not C. Sorry Hotqld45 you may have been misinformed. Also for many clinics the only monitoring done is the DIY kind. You are right Hep A is the shitty one, we got A and C mixed up. Good reason for not taking Forum reccomendations and visit the health specialists sex clinics directly, if you plan on group sex. Must be hepB vaccine we are getting! and hepA vaccine is available if you want to play with shit. By monitering we meant regular testing, the sex clinics will suggest the intervals, just blood and urine samples which I would imagine is available anywhere there is a doctor or nurse. Cheers Have a great night MissT
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SexyArse
15 years ago
women who let guys cum in their mouths??? I know of women who let guys cum in their mouths and haven't told their husbands/partners what has transpired. It's one thing to risk this for themselves but to put their husbands/partners at risk too. Shame on you for your lack of honesty!
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DonnaBrett
15 years ago
It seems some people miss the point... we are not talking about unprotected sex with long term partners, that is a totally different thing. The profile question of practicing safe sex and putting the answer of "Never" or "If Required" has nothing to do with your regular partner...the question is in relation to the CASUAL hook ups on this site or elsewhere. I take saying "If Required" to mean you don't practice safe sex unless someone insists that you do..thus meaning you partake in risky sex at all other times which makes you a risky partner. Yes we all know about the oral & fingers risk etc etc....but for actual penetration condoms MUST be used for all casual contact. If someone contacts us and their profile says in relation to safe sex "Never" or "If Required" they get an immediate rejection!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Personally I hate condoms. They really dull the sensation, something which women just cant understand. I also do not consider using condoms as safe sex. All sex inherently carries a risk, in fact all human contact does. There is only one way to avoid STIs, abstain. Should us males insist that you ladies wear the female condom? I have never even seen one. I also fear that many men and women sitting safely behind the latex, may never have had a STI check. Only 34% of sexually active Australians have had a STI check. Much less have it regularly. RHP should include a mandatory field. Negative STI check in the last 6Months, with a verified tick. Lets see how many would pass that? I have. If required, and begrudgingly so...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Was practising safe sex, Not do you wear condoms and she will be right then! Of course it is safe sex with your long term permenant partner. Safe sex is a host of practices to make group sex safer. Such as: Condoms, immunising yourself against hep A and B, frequency you do it, identifying high risk activities , Routine testing if the medical proffession reccommends... for hi risk people. identifying high risk groups, dont play if any general sores blood sources are present, cleanliness shower imediately or an hour before playing and after. These are really lifestyle safe choices. We should really say safer sex, because safe sex outside your permenant long term relationship does not exisit.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67' Negative STI check in the last 6Months, with a verified tick. Lets see how many would pass that? I have.The Queensland Govt Health sex clinic, advised us, being active swingers, after our Oct 2010 check up that they did not want to see us again unless we changed our risk profile. They asked we encourage our swinging friends to see them as well. Allways been against testing when its not required, nor reccommended by qld health as in our current situation. With you 100% everyone should see them prior or just getting into swinging so they are well educated in reagard to the risks and the proffessionals have advised them. What is your qualification in this field to be making such a reccommendation?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks so much for your last comment, re receiving mail in the in box in response to forum stuff. Quite frankly, we are over it too. If something starts in the forums, it should continue there in most cases. And don't you just get over people who write to you then block you so you don't have the right of reply cheers Mrs Sweetie XX
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'GirlTuesday'Shhh, don't tell anyone else or they might like to try it too :) Thats so Funny
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting tastietwo "What is your qualification in this field to be making such a reccommendation?" I know that condoms break, I know that they can ride up the shaft, that kissing and oral sex can transmit various STIs. From Australian Government Department of Health web site. Directory: /For Health Professionals/Education and Prevention/Sexual Health/STI facts "Condoms may provide limited protection from the transmission of genital herpes, but only protect the skin that is covered." "Condoms provide limited protection from the transmission of HPV, as they only protect the skin that is covered." The same again for Syphilis. World Health Organization. Reduction in transmission rates of AIDS via proper use of condoms, 80%. tastietwo: It is very difficult to believe that the sex clinic would say you don't need anymore checks, despite you admitting to a swinging life style. From the Queensland Health web site. "A sexual health check is advisable in the following circumstances: ....... you or your partner has other sexual partners." I find it annoying that my suggestion for a STI check field on RHP profiles should get such a passionate response, including messaging me with sugar coated abuse. You have a nice weekend as well... :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'tastietwo' Was practising safe sex, Not do you wear condoms and she will be right then! Of course it is safe sex with your long term permenant partner. Safe sex is a host of practices to make group sex safer. Such as: Condoms, immunising yourself against hep A and B, frequency you do it, identifying high risk activities , Routine testing if the medical proffession reccommends... for hi risk people. identifying high risk groups, dont play if any general sores blood sources are present, cleanliness shower imediately or an hour before playing and after. These are really lifestyle safe choices. We should really say safer sex, because safe sex outside your permenant long term relationship does not exisit. Hasn't a Forum just been started by you asking about licking another guys cum out of your partners pussy? xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Every two months as a matter of course. If I was more sexually active than what I am I would get treated more frequently for the simple reason ....I need to know. My Gyno also tells me that Clamydia is the most prevalent STI amongst the younger people.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Looking thru the Red Hot amateur photos, group action or action with new friends, I have not spotted one condom on male or female, posing, having sex or oral. (found some of the regular forum contributors!) This does not seem consistant with what everyone says in this thread? Wonder if they make themselves as safe as possible with lifestyle and immunisation choices then access their own risk and make their own decisions as adults instead of polically correct statements? Miss you heaps MRSS cant swap our 4 emails per day with you now, great news the Hep a and b shots, sorry not one needle (they are a little prick....pun intended) We had 1st in Oct, next Dec and final is due March. Your 1st visit to a sex clinic too! You will have fun there, and you will greatly benefit. Stalky told us all to do that last September. You need to pay closer attention to Stalky. Cheers Have a great rainie Sunday.
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RHP User
15 years ago
And dont the girls and boys love it. Rather do that than riming, anal with either sex , all subject to OUR safe sex vetting. Each to their own.....Cheers Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Quoting 'tastietwo' Was practising safe sex, Not do you wear condoms and she will be right then! Of course it is safe sex with your long term permenant partner. Safe sex is a host of practices to make group sex safer. Such as: Condoms, immunising yourself against hep A and B, frequency you do it, identifying high risk activities , Routine testing if the medical proffession reccommends... for hi risk people. identifying high risk groups, dont play if any general sores blood sources are present, cleanliness shower imediately or an hour before playing and after. These are really lifestyle safe choices. We should really say safer sex, because safe sex outside your permenant long term relationship does not exisit. Hasn't a Forum just been started by you asking about licking another guys cum out of your partners pussy? xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'calum69' Hi All, The trend at the moment seems to be for smooth and sexy so there are lots of us shaving parts that never used to get shaved before!!! I guess this could increase the risks of STI transmission due to small nicks and unseen abrasions, therefore condoms make sense if you want to help protect yourself and others. We think shaving is good manners when playing, no sores etc are hidden by hair and we believe crabs / lice will only be present if there is hair. Nicks etc we dont get any we use hair removal cream without any irritation guess we are not as thin skinned as some around here..lol We found razors left nicks, waxing bloddy hurts and is expensive, laser we tried a home one and was useless. With the creams they appear to thin hair out over time and the need gets less and less. Our doctor reccommended creams over shavers. We like going a little hairy.....its nice holding onto a hairy pussy then when we go swinging go hairless and wow looks great....variation. We dont believe weather you shave or not has any bearing on using condoms! The condom issue is dependant on your risk profile and the risk you wish to take.....sounds like a trip to your local sex clinic will bring you up to speed on making yourself safe.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MRSSWEETIEPIE' If that's because of all the girl/girl contact? I would just hate to pass anything on and i know that anything i do have the misfortune of collecting along the way would be something you can get in spite of the use of condoms like Clamydia or perhaps something like hep a/b. Hmmmmm....does make you think. As I have noticed that the younger people have way more tolerance towards same sex relationships than what there was when I was a teen. The girls in the 15 to 19 year age bracket swap the sex of thier partners rapidly. Sometimes it is difficult to keep up. One week they may be with a boy and the next a girl. The boys do not have the same freedom. They are straight or they are gay. The gay guys are more accepted now. Yes, using condoms does not stop the spread of clamydia but I am assured that I would certainly know if I contacted it and it is easy to treat. Teenagers and the aboriginal community are at the greatest risk.
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SexyArse
15 years ago
Condoms will not protect you from alot of STIs however the chances of contracted HIV whilst using a condom is significantly less. Isn't that in itself worth the effort???Seriously people!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quote Fionabee "The boys do not have the same freedom. They are straight or they are gay. " I am nether straight or gay. I love to play with both teams with a preference for girls. There are a lot more bi guys then you may imagine. Over the years on RHP I have been contacted by at least 100 men with straight on their profile wanting to meet up. Personally I instantly reject them, if you lie on your profile who know when else you lie. I know this places me in a high risk group, but thats why I get regular checks.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'tastietwo' the Hep a and b shots, sorry not one needle (they are a little prick....pun intended) We had 1st in Oct, next Dec and final is due March. Untrue. the combined Hep A & B vaccine is called Twinrix and is readily available to GPs and clinics, it's one needle and is usually cheaper per dose than the separate shots. There's also a 'rapid schedule' for people who are exposed to Hepatitis where you get 3 needles within 2 weeks for accelerated coverage with a booster at 12months to make sure you're immune long-term. It's been in use for years and has been tested and proven to give the same amount of seroprotection as the standard schedule in the long run but you need to make sure you will remember to go back and get that booster. I'm not arguing your doc's method, they know your medical history etc and would have made the best decision for you based on that information, just happened to have worked for a company that specialised in immunisations.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Markusss67'Quote Fionabee "The boys do not have the same freedom. They are straight or they are gay. "I am nether straight or gay. I love to play with both teams with a preference for girls. There are a lot more bi guys then you may imagine. Over the years on RHP I have been contacted by at least 100 men with straight on their profile wanting to meet up. Personally I instantly reject them, if you lie on your profile who know when else you lie.I know this places me in a high risk group, but thats why I get regular checks. I was actually talking about the 15 to 19 year old age group, school kids and thier sexual freedom . The openly gay guys no longer get teased and tormented AS MUCH but the girls in that age group have no hesitation in exploring thier sexuality.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks for that, we should have clarified we are just having HEPB shot on the reccomendation of qld health sex clinic for us, and mistakenly assumed hepA would be the same. This is what we keep trying to get across for everyone to go to the sex clinic and work out their own safe plan, rather than hi risk groups posting on here and trying to tell us we all must do as they have to. There is no charge at the sex clinics for hep B vaccinations (HEP A we are not qualified to comment on) and they SMS us the day before, helps us not to forget the boosters. It would then be logical if they suggested continous monitoring for the hi risk groups they would get a sms the day before their check up is due. QLD health also told us 3 mths between tests to get a all clear oct2010, apparently there is also a fast track system of 2 weeks for urgent / hi risk cases. QLD Health is trying to get the message out there for all swingers to visit them.....they dont bite! That way it will be safer for all. Markus We have heard that stuff before on the forums that 100 of straight guys that are part of a couple try to have sex with males on the side, local public toilets etc. We have yet to be approached along these lines by a straight guy and we have been on these sites since 2004. The married long term couples we have met (not fuck buddies) we are confident the guys dont do that, and now lets wait for the standard responce.....IE They tell you lies! Quoting 'curiousnewgirl78' Quoting 'tastietwo' the Hep a and b shots, sorry not one needle (they are a little prick....pun intended) We had 1st in Oct, next Dec and final is due March. Untrue. the combined Hep A & B vaccine is called Twinrix and is readily available to GPs and clinics, it's one needle and is usually cheaper per dose than the separate shots. There's also a 'rapid schedule' for people who are exposed to Hepatitis where you get 3 needles within 2 weeks for accelerated coverage with a booster at 12months to make sure you're immune long-term. It's been in use for years and has been tested and proven to give the same amount of seroprotection as the standard schedule in the long run but you need to make sure you will remember to go back and get that booster. I'm not arguing your doc's method, they know your medical history etc and would have made the best decision for you based on that information, just happened to have worked for a company that specialised in immunisations.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Truely How many people on here, saying that they are single, turn out to be married, defacto, or other? Have you looked at the Australian Bureau of statistics and seen the percentage of married men and women they have surveyed that say they have had an affair out side a relationship? It's well above 50% for men and still over 50% for women. So are you still having safe sex with your Husband or Wife?
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RHP User
15 years ago
We have a theory what reality is: Check up testing Gay, Bi, anal sex with others outside marrage single condoms 1-3 mths Play married with 2-5 partners in one night once every 6 mths condoms (swinging open relationships) 3-12 mths Play 2-4 extra partners per year no anal and married 15 yrs plus negotiated (swinging) 6 -24 plus mths Cheat when married and bring a STI Home ......good chance condoms because you are single again. hehe straight away Quoting 'lovethehoneypot'Truely How many people on here, saying that they are single, turn out to be married, defacto, or other? Have you looked at the Australian Bureau of statistics and seen the percentage of married men and women they have surveyed that say they have had an affair out side a relationship? It's well above 50% for men and still over 50% for women. So are you still having safe sex with your Husband or Wife?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'LoveCurvie' Quoting 'Markusss67'There is a reason women have regular Pap smears (name after the Papillomavirus) to detect cancers. Sorry I am a bit of a fan of trivia and always like information to be correct...The Papsmear was named after George Papanicolaou who developed the test. | | LC Total corect LC ... and fortunately for us women ... we only really need to be done once ever 2 years ... unlik the dear Doctors wife .. who was his volunteer and was subjected to a 'pap test; every day for six months so he could perfect the procedure that now helps save so many womens lives .. my hat goes off to that woman .. Another myth ... Clamydia ... a very common and relatively sympton free STI ... does not need penetration sex to be passed on ... anyone who is positive to this STI .. can pass it on simply by performing ORAL ... for the Calmydia bacteria can live in the back of the throat ... REGULAR testing is the only way to go .......
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'curiousnewgirl78' Quoting 'tastietwo' the Hep a and b shots, sorry not one needle (they are a little prick....pun intended) We had 1st in Oct, next Dec and final is due March. Untrue. the combined Hep A & B vaccine is called Twinrix and is readily available to GPs and clinics, it's one needle and is usually cheaper per dose than the separate shots. There's also a 'rapid schedule' for people who are exposed to Hepatitis where you get 3 needles within 2 weeks for accelerated coverage with a booster at 12months to make sure you're immune long-term. It's been in use for years and has been tested and proven to give the same amount of seroprotection as the standard schedule in the long run but you need to make sure you will remember to go back and get that booster. I'm not arguing your doc's method, they know your medical history etc and would have made the best decision for you based on that information, just happened to have worked for a company that specialised in immunisations. Fortunately there is a combination HepA and HepB vaccine available ... UNFORTUNATE situation is that the TWINRIX vaccine only provided a pediatric does of the HEP A vaccine ... not the adult dose ... So it might be a good idea when getting your scripts for your vaccinations .. to MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALL FULL ADULT STRENGTH >> Same goes with the GARDASIL VACCINE ... there is actually 2 different Cervical Cancer Vaccines available ... one is formulated to protect against 4 strands .. and is particular towards the 12 to 16 age range both male and female ... but can be given to old persons who do not already show the HPV virus evident on their paps or swab tests.. The other products protects against 2 strains .. but the most prevelant of the 110 different strains ... and it is suited to the 20-55 age range ...
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RHP User
15 years ago
if you have herpes you'd be able to see it right?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Our understanding is Herpes there is no real cure they are reoccurring but you can only be infected when a sore is present? We could be wrong on this as there are two types ,,,the cold sore type on your lips and the genetial type. This one condoms dont protect you from as its passed on skin to skin contact, condoms may lower the risk a little. Is this the way others understand it?
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SexyArse
15 years ago
U are correct about this. Herpes of all descriptions and genital worts are contracted from skin to skin contact when they are present. Most people have the herpe and/or wort virus in their system but sores/worts do not become evident until their systems are run down. I can also tell you that if you get herpes/coldsores on your face they are extremely contageous and if you are to have skin to skin contact with someone else (anywhere) whilst in this state the chances of you passing on the virus is extremely high.The wort virus is contageous as well but does depend on the type of wort. Genital worts are extremely contageous!Both viruses can be contracted even whilst using condoms.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'BadRomancefor4' Our understanding is Herpes there is no real cure they are reoccurring but you can only be infected when a sore is present? We could be wrong on this as there are two types ,,,the cold sore type on your lips and the genetial type. This one condoms dont protect you from as its passed on skin to skin contact, condoms may lower the risk a little. Is this the way others understand it? Close to correct .. There is now NO distinct difference between the cold sore HEPRES virus ... the the Genital HERPES virus ... for thay are mutating and essentially becoming one ... And they can be passed to others or transmitted to other parts of your body via numerous forms of contact ... Hands / kissing / oral sex .. and they can be transmited to anywhere .. nose / eyes / vaginal - anal - peri region. tHE BEST ADVISE HERE IS ... DONT TOUCH - KISS - LICK OR HAVE ANY SKIN TO SKIN CONTACTED WHILST YOU HAVE ANY ACTIVE BLISTERS ANYWHERE ....... WASH YOUR HANDS BABE ... AND BTW ... NOT ALL STAFF WHO WORK IN SEX HEALTH CLINICS ARE 'HARDCORE' PEOPLE .. SOME OF US ARE QUITE NORMAL JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE POPULATION ,.. LOL
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RHP User
15 years ago
Was reading about safe sex and spa pools from a UK swingers source. They said 33 STD can be transmitted via spa pools and stressed the importance of maintaining high temps in the spa but then that increases the usage of bromide and or chlorine and in a swing envoiroment and should be checked hourly! (never seen that in my life) Sex in a spa they said was very high risk even with condoms for the females. I was responsible for spa maint in a resort with 50 odd rooms and I had to change the water every morning overload the chemicals knowing full well there was no way I could maintain the correct chemical balances and by the next morning being to dump the water and start fresh. This source also gave the example herpes virus can live out of the body for two hours, so as someone is getting in or out the virus could be on the top / sides and as you get in bingo ...... Also a big warning about sharing towels which we had never thought about because we always take our own ...never gave it a thought STD being transmitted via towells. What does everyone thing are these points valid? We liked spas at small private parties ..a good place to meet people naked!a bit of underwater secretive touchies, and also ensured everything tasted nice afterwards....but are the risks too high?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'BadRomancefor4' Was reading about safe sex and spa pools from a UK swingers source. What does everyone thing are these points valid? We liked spas at small private parties ..a good place to meet people naked!a bit of underwater secretive touchies, and also ensured everything tasted nice afterwards....but are the risks too high? It's ok as long as you jump up and down after you get out of the spa (covers STI and pregnancy actually) . Sounds like a load of shit... but then again it's difficult to decide when someone is paraphrasing a link which probably paraphrases an article in People magazine, which paraphrases a medical article which was probably about the mating habits of the Papa New Guinean tree frog. Bit like Chinese whispers . a) If this were true it would apply in non swinger public pools too (and *yawn* public toilets) b) What is the link? . . . . . c) No... the link about the tree frog
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DonnaBrett
15 years ago
Quoting 'Adam_and_Kristy' We have put "if required" on our profile because we have only been with each other for the last 10 years therefore we don't practise safe sex with each other but when we find someone to invite into our bedroom OF COURSE we will be "safe" to protect ourselves and our new partner (even though we are both guaranteed clean). So unless we wanted to lie on our profile we had to list "if required" otherwise it just makes a joke out of the whole honest profile concept. I'm hoping that other people who have listed if required/sometimes on their profile are just in similar situations to us. For those who list NEVER, we agree that it is stupid and they are playing Russian Roulette with thier lives and others.We think people are misunderstanding the meaning of the "if required" thing on here. This is a casual sex site, therefore the questions on the profiles should only be in reference to your casual sex habits not your life partner. Obviously 99% of couples don't feel a need for condoms (apart from avoiding the baby issue) but the answers you give here should be in regards to what you practice with your casual partners, meaning if you state "If Required" in the safe sex box, we take it that that means when you play casually you will only use condoms if your new playmates insist. This to us reads that if you can get away with it you will not use them, thus putting you and any future partners at risk. If we see "If Required" to that question on any profile, it's immediate rejection. The same confusion seems to abound about the "Experimental" box in relation to orientation, to us this straight up means you experiment with bi sexuality, not the odd feather duster & body paint. Maybe the RHP management should overhaul a lot of these questions and the responses allowable to make things more clear because there definitely seems to be different opinions on certain meanings. Condoms as we know are not the be all and end all of protection but they are a hell of a lot better than using nothing at all. Using them and washing well after play should be on the top of everyone's list in this scene. Yeah, not very sexy, but what is better.....sexy or safe?
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RHP User
15 years ago
WTF BR4? I've never heard that before. You're not going to get a sexually transmitted disease from dipping your toe in the spa water, but it has the potential to make you sick as a dog if the water isn't shiny and clear.. if it isn't... then just don't get in. Simple really. Fortunately balancing a pool can be automated these days... but if you do not let your friends fuck in your spa pool it will stay relatively healthy for the evening... With a spa pool, because of the temperatures, I've found that it's easier to change the water over than try and fix it once it gets cloudy or starts to smell funky.Sharing towels... yuck.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Does this mean the Pups should refrain from skinny dipping in the pool, it seems we always end up joined at the hip!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' WTF BR4? I've never heard that before. You're not going to get a sexually transmitted disease from dipping your toe in the spa water, but it has the potential to make you sick as a dog if the water isn't shiny and clear.. if it isn't... then just don't get in. Simple really. Fortunately balancing a pool can be automated these days... but if you do not let your friends fuck in your spa pool it will stay relatively healthy for the evening... With a spa pool, because of the temperatures, I've found that it's easier to change the water over than try and fix it once it gets cloudy or starts to smell funky.Sharing towels... yuck.HugsStalky FFS Stalky Where did I say dipping your toe in a spa you catch a STD thats ridiculas. Made a mistake should be 23 STD not 33, if you message me I will give you the source. On Auto chemical feeders for spas the bromide feeder which works better than chlorine for higher temperatures we are well aware of with automatic feeders that let in a certain amount of chemical per hour which is routine in most commercial applications. Or you can go high tech and where the equipement auto tests the water and automatically adjusts the amount of chemical to bring the spa back in balance., I would be surprised if any private parties had either in their homes, and doubt too many commercial swing places would have the later being totally automatic and extremely expensive, Last I looked at Qld Health spa pool guide lines local govt did not require the later. Agree basic common sence dont get into a cloudy unclean spa didnt think RHP forum members would need that level of advise! It is common in spas for underwater fingering etc = no risk?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Donna and Brent Agree 99% of Married couples dont use condoms between husband and wife. The safe sex condom question is of course when you as a couple invite extra people. Nothing needs altering its a common sence question. Dont think if required means if we can get away with none, it means if any of us require condoms they will be worn and this is allways respected. Some couples have a rule condoms 1st meet and will consider relaxing this on the 2nd meet if they all agree. No one needs to fly off because we made this statement, there are other areas that others may do that we consider extremely dangerous but trying not to judge them too hard.
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RHP User
15 years ago
We have one of those auto chemical thingos so we must be safe!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'puppy' We have one of those auto chemical thingos so we must be safe!!!! Yeah.. my pool is auto everything.... even has an auto leveller to top up the water... I'm safe too! Phew!Quoting 'BadRomancefor4'It is common in spas for underwater fingering etc = no risk? Well it goes without saying really.... I mean... the risk there is not increased by the presence of the spa. That's the question... I understand that the hot water is more volatile for breeding bugs and they multiply quicker.. but STD's in the spa..... don't you need to be having sexual contact... by definition... "sexually transmitted" not Spa transmitted.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Who are we to argue with the logic of safe sex. As for me,I always use a condom with anyone but the darling Mrs. Ty, and lets face it guys, who can't last a little bit longer with one of those pesky little things on. It's also a sign of respect for all involved to use one. Nothing says 'I don't give a damn' more than saying 'do you want to use a condom?'.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Looks like due to auto dispensing chemical devices we are all safe. Guess our thoughts is at a party situation use the spa earlier rather than later. Pupps ...Of course skinny dip in your own pool and have sex in it.....Reckon its over rated sex underwater drives out all the nature female lubricants. Stalky....Reckon you should install underwater video survelance in your spa so you can moniter your guests they are not doing anything naughty in your spa. You know a lady could sit on a guys knee and it accidently pops up and in. Have a feeling I read on the forums when CI shifted 5 plus yrs ago they decided no spa ???
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RHP User
15 years ago
Krissy G, I agrree totally. Thanks for some common sense feedback. Wish you would contact me.
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RHP User
15 years ago
We agree with your approach as well, thats pretty much what we think leave it to the couples concerned, let them decide on their risk for themselves. Why Qld Health....ummm because Qld leads all other states in technology as well as Football, tennis, swimming, sex and the list goes on!
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DonnaBrett
15 years ago
Hey Badromance...you and we know what that question means but where we were going with that is ...it seems not everyone else does? Judging by what others have stated, some folk do not have a clear perception of the question (as we understand how it reads anyway). To avoid any confusion...the question should simply read "Practice safe sex?" Answers: "YES" or "NO" there is no need for anything in between (ie: if required/sometimes etc)...it's a very black and white question and the answer should be just as black and white.
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RHP User
15 years ago
we always play safe but when we come across people that don't they think we are the strange ones?????? yes condoms don't stop everything and yes they can be difficult to use at times but they are a must no backing down on that rule. Kat
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'AdventureTime' we always play safe but when we come across people that don't they think we are the strange ones?????? Never met a couple that would say that, where did you get that from? If u want condoms as do we, we have never been called strange for asking for condoms? We have never been called strange!
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RHP User
15 years ago
It takes 4 weeks from the last time you had unsafe sex for all STD's to be decetable (including all blood bourne viruses), if like us, you have a regular group of friends that will not step outside of the circle (and not tell you) and you have all tested clear........whats the problem?? I mean seriously people 4 weeks is not a long time to abstain compared to the cost of a life.........
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DonnaBrett
15 years ago
It's true Badromance....some people simply will not play if condoms are involved, we have seen women who absolutely insist that guys don't use them & she wants them cum inside her...... we don't go there!!!
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RHP's popular dating tool
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Where the heck did that topic go?
Discover what RHP is doing offline
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RHP member's RL secrets
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