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Red Meat is the New Sexy

January 01 2010

This is a delicate topic, so I apologise in advance if anyone is offended...  proceed with caution. Lol. A few nights ago myself (single) and five of my best mates all went out to dinner. My five mates all have partners – three of them wives, the other two just girlfriends. So it was me and five couples! Yuk. To make things even worse, I was charged with selecting and booking the restaurant. The Thai joint I was thinking of was no good because one of the ladies wasn’t happy with the menu – she didn’t like their gluten free options. The Italian place on Mooloolaba Esplanade was no good because two of the ladies are ciliacs – so they can’t eat pasta or pizza or garlic bread etc. Another of the girls is a vegan or something, so Hog’s Breath was a no-no. Not that I held much hope for Hog’s Breath to begin with – good luck getting any girl to eat steak these days... haha. My favourite restaurant, a cosy little place in Cotton Tree, was ruled out because one of the girls had an altercation with a waiter a couple of months ago - he served her a coffee with normal milk... she’s lactose intolerant so she MUST have “soy” milk. Mind you she still drank it and, as far as I know, suffered not ill affect (go figure). Still, she refuses to ever go back. Lol. I finally booked a little place in Buderim, but one couple arrived very late. They couldn’t find a bottle shop that sold “preservative free” wine – the vegan chick has a yeast intolerance and an allergy to preservative 220. What’s going on with women today? Why can’t (or won’t) they eat anything? Ten years ago – no, make that just five years ago - women could eat anything on any menu. Why do we all of a sudden have all these eating dramas? Is it in their head? Have they conditioned their bodies to reject food after years of not eating and trying to be skinny? Is it a fad? Attention maybe? Or is it fair dinkum? If it is fair dinkum, why don't any men have these dramas? I don’t doubt that these conditions are genuine in some women (so I hope this has not offended those ladies – please, this is not aimed at you) but come on... It’s well above 50% of the women I know now. It makes dating really hard. Where do you take them? If they don’t have one (or more) of the abovementioned “ailments”, they’re a half-baked vegetarian (but they’ll eat chicken or fish when it suits... Again, go figure). Lol. I remember not so long ago, when I lived in Sydney, I would go to the Coogee Bay Hotel on the odd Sunday arvo for a “cook your own” steak in the beer garden.  I’d always have at least three or four healthy young girls all cooking their steaks alongside me. Where are those girls now? They’re all eating lettuce, rice cakes and celery. Come on ladies... Eat up!! There is nothing sexier than a girl eating red meat and drinking beer out of a stubby.

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  • playfulminx

    playfulminx

    16 years ago

    I think it might be just your circle of friends' WAGs. Maybe they like to try and one-up each other by having the worst dietary conditions?Having said that, all the conditions you mentioned are totally valid and we are being encouraged to eat less meat for the good of Mother Earth these days. I think it's also true to say that women are more likely to follow health recommendations than men are. Besides, what man is going to wave his arms about and admit to being a coeliac? He'd rather go through the bloating and nasties in silence I'm sure :DI love eating red meat but once a week or so is enough for me. Nothing wrong with giving the bowels a break every now and then you know!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    All I can say is we are still around...we r however generally being followed by a brood of children and are well padded but we r still here LOL. In truth, the dietary habits of women nowdays is a complex and confusing issue that no person has any chance of getting there head around.Since going dutch is the norm now all i can recommend is asking the woman where her fave eating place is and saying u would love to try it. Good luck fella coz yr gonna need it!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Cool... That makes sense. I just hope they're not taking it too far. And yeah, our poor old bowels have feelings too :P       PS... sorry my original post is so long!! I didn't realise until I just looked at it again... oops.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I had lunch with a saucy woman recently. I ordered steak and chips and she wanted to scoff down my chips! True! So I persuaded the waiter to give her some chips of her own... she ate the chicken burger by denuding it of any trace of bread... and then the chips. I mean.. I just dont get that.. and no woman I have ever dated would eat the chips.   Then just yesterday or was it the day before, I take her out to the restaurant of her choice and she wants a meat pie with sauce.   I mean, this woman is bloody brilliant.   If I were you, I'd have taken them to Hogs Breathe. I mean lets face it. None of those women were your problem. :p   Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well as a kid I ate sand... was bitten by every conceivable insect... even attacked by a swarm of bees. Used to swim in the local swamp where the water was totally opaque and full of leeches and mosquitoes. There was no fast food outlets unless you consider fish and chips. You know none of us heard of those ailments and cant recall any kids having an allergy to peanuts. The closest was the occasional youngster with asthma who was warned off milk. So what you describe sounds like a nightmare. How do you organise anything? They are probably allergic to latex condoms too?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I take my hat off to you for persevering with booking the restaurant...I wouldn't have been so patient and handed it over to someone!   Fortunately, I don't have any of these conditions...eat anything, especially if someone cooks it for me :p  Sounds like your friends are a lil fussy...but maybe thats what happens when you have dietary intolerances???   I wonder though, are these dietary intolerances a signal that as a population we should be changing our diet???  Do people with dietary intolerances get sick more often and therefore need to maintain their strict diet???  Or is it, that science is able to identify and diagnose these intolerances that were once "put up" with???  Or as playfulminx suggested, is it a social trend???   (Yessss...thinking out loud again :-)   It would be nice to hear from the people who do have dietary intolerances...to get their perspective on eating out.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Flicks through her "Guidelines and Rules for Vegetarians" hand book.  Hmmm says on page 178 I can eat meat, as long as I don't swallow..hehehe (wide evil grin).   xxMiss Honeyxx  <<

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Ridge, you have the patience of a saint, personally i think my patience would have worn extremely thin, and i would have been hoping for one of those rescue me now type phone calls "sorry guys gotta go, urgent breakdown"...lol This all sounds a little to like the Precious Princess Syndrome!Cheers Nev....apologies to people who really do suffer from allergies!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    oh boy...reading this thread sure makes me feel like having a rant...kudos to you ridge for sticking it out and finding a place where everyone could get food...and ta all ya lucky buggas out there who can eat whatever ya feel like it...one big sloppy kiss...and ta all of ya who can't...warm hugs...now...anyone wanna comeandshare ma soya burger wif wholegrain brown rice and me wheatgrass and lemon...making a sour face...juice...???...cheersjose...

  • RedHotCoast

    RedHotCoast

    16 years ago

    My wife wont eat anything that casts a shadow. She is a level five vegan.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Rice....Carbs....eeeekkkkWheatgrass juice, just the look of that stuff and ima gunna wannna pukeCheers Nev....lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    poor boys real women eat real food have real curves and no pretense   unfortunately we also have real bodies not ones from magazines   ho hum can't please everyone

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    With half the population convinced peanuts are a poison, it's not going to get any better...  I too remember a date back when eating was considered a normal part of life, with a certain lady who ordered the mixed grill - which had so much meat she later threw up - but good on her for finishing the plate!  She would also order chips as a side to Lasagne!  Surprisingly she didn't need a mobility scooter to get around.   My fave faux pas was taking a Jewish girl to a German restaurant.  Apparently there was some sort of altercation between the two groups in the 40's, but the real problem was the German love for pork.  Not shared by Jews as I found out.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    This is so so true...it's all about image & fashion mate.Especially Coogee Bay Hotel...alot of eastern suburb wannabe's hanging around. Another thing is the amount of guys born in the late 80's/early 90's who are frikken 6ft tall lanky freaks & girls with at least a minimum of double D boobs!!!I'm guessing it's from all the animal rights mums freaking out over all those videos of cows having to be electrocuted & heads chopped off that were put up by famous Cosmo/Cleo models championing PETA before it & WSPA became trendy, & mad cow disease trendites who fed their kids free range chicken pumped full of growth hormones that's made them this way.How many kids these days have asthma & allergies compared to kids from the late 70's/early 80's??? Another interesting observation....had I wrote this post I reckon I'd have had the usual forum nazi's whinging about me ranting on...blah blah blah

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    If you had of written that post we would of been damn proud of you!Not once in Ridge's post did he mention Ken dolls, 6ft tall blokes, or six packs! as far as i can recall.I started reading your post, 1st line ok, 2nd line ok....maybe he has turned the corner!But on the 3rd line,  uhoh  there it was in all its glory..........and so it continued to the end.....should i have been surprised!Maybe things have changed, i have been to Coogee Bay Hotel, albeit not for some years, usually Selinas for bands, (is that still going ?) now as i remember it people were mostly the usual normal type people, having a good time!Cheers Nev

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Not everyone was completely normal Nev. I used to hang out there too. Lived 200m away from there near Coogee Beach.   Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    May I say, it's weird that the Thai restaurant was out - they are usually fantastic with their gluten free/coeliac options!   Anyhoo...I am of the opinion that the more you cut things out of your diet the more likely you are to become intolerant to them as your body is just not used to digesting them.  This also has a lot to do with all the fad diets out there and people counting calories and carbs and various other things (blah, perhaps you can tell that I've never been sucked in my them LOL).  Everything in moderation people!    As SweetIandJ and VelvetBite have said - there are girls out there that don't have these issues....but we also have real bodies!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Whilst men can lose their six-pack that they had in their 20s and have more grey in their hair, women are expected (or at least you hope that they) will still be in shape when they hit 50, after two (or in my Mum's case, four) kids.. and look ravishing with their long, grey-free hair, smooth skin and tight, gym-honed bodies.   Its alot easier to do that when you have diet restrictions and when you do not.   Hence, the "brilliant girls" you met when you were younger were probably the same sort of women who have some form of dietary restrictions now - the thing was that they were YOUNGER, perhaps?   I have alot of respect for women who know what they want, and know how to get it - and much less for the one who has a quarter pounder burger one night and moans how she's 10pounds too heavy the next. (mind you I often find myself in the latter too..)   So good on the diet conscious and the strong willed vegans. Its just unfortunate that you had to deal with them in full force all in a night. ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'sexshinecoast' My wife wont eat anything that casts a shadow. She is a level five vegan. But does she pocket mulch? LOLwhitehawk: the population has been getting taller and taller, because overall we're getting better nutrition - now, many have the problem of getting way to much of it. Taller kids and years 7 kids more developed than the year 12 girls "back in the day" is just a result of that - not preservatives and hormones (which haven't been used in Australia in quite a long time IIRC).LOL, can I be a mad cow trendy? (along with anyone else who ate meat and lived in the UK in the late 80s?)Back on Topic - I think it is both increased diagnosis - both clinical and self diagnosis of both genuine and non-genuine cases. I don't recall ever even hearing about ceoliacs until a few years ago - not because it didn't exist, but there was bugger all awareness other than the people who had been diagnosed with it. Think of all the phenylketonurics - before the 1930s they were just babies/people who were sick, following th discovery they could at least be diagnosed.That said I'm with the majority view that so much of this "I can't eat this, that or the other" is just princesses being princesses and exploiting wider range of options we have now - at Ridge's time expense. I know so many people who claim an allergy to something, and when you press them on it they admit that its just so they can make sure they don't get X,Y or Z in their food cause they don't like it - but nobody will ever mutter that you're a PITA if you have an allergy versus just being overly fussy.I won't even start on the fad dieters - and the "raw food brigade".(can we avoid the "real women with real bodies" topic please girls? it doesn't really make any sense in the manner used - are stick thin women that hoover up food and have fast metabolisms not "real women with real bodies" also? I also dislike it cause it plays into the hands of cynical marketers like the "Dove" campaign which was still all about selling beauty products to make you look different i.e. non-real)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Holy cow! There are "levels" of vegan?? Haha. That's awesome. How do you get to level 5? She must be a Vegan Master.   Is it kinda like scouts where they sew a new patch on their vegan uniform for completing a vegan challenge? Or more like karate where they get a different coloured belt for advancing to the next level? Haha... a black belt vegan! Look out!!   I probably should shut up actually. We shouldn't poke fun at people for their lifestyle choices... especially when they're in the interest of preserving our planet. I actually admire them for their commitment. So before anyone tries to tell me to shut up... No need. I just did it for you ;)     PS... All in good fun (unless you're booking a restaurant for dinner)    POWER TO THE VEGANS!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    can we avoid the "real women with real bodies" topic please girls? it doesn't really make any sense in the manner used - are stick thin women that hoover up food and have fast metabolisms not "real women with real bodies" also? I also dislike it cause it plays into the hands of cynical marketers like the "Dove" campaign which was still all about selling beauty products to make you look different i.e. non-real   LOL this doesn't exclude skinny women Sydneyboy But rather says we are all meant to be different shapes and sizes with different breasts, butt, imperfect features etc sorry if it sounded like a rant it so wasnt lol was rather a reply to the idea that you have to eat this and not that to be beautiful

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Point taken *giggle*.  Yes there are women like that out there and yes, they are real women with real bodies...doesn't mean that I can't be a wee bit envious ;)   I do think that you can draw parallels though as it's often the super body image conscious (as opposed to health conscious) who have long lists of "allergies" and intolerences to food.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Not so long ago a friend visited from afar and took my 11 year old and I out for dinner where all three of us ordered the most divine steaks for dinner...Now my 11 year old is severely peanut anaphylactic to the point where we have to carry adrenalin injections with us wherever we go and usually avoid going out for dinner at all.....but the steaks I'm afraid were just too tempting.  We went through the usual drill..asking the staff if they use peanut oil in the kitchen etc etc....My dinner came with Diane Sauce and after watching me savour every mouthful of my beautiful steak my daughter asked to try the sauce....I said sure....thinking that there were no peanuts in Diane Sauce....within less than a minute after tasting the sause she immediately had an allergic reaction....turned out she has a new allergy...to Tamarind which is in worcestershire sauce.....Thankfully she ended up being ok but it took a few days this time for it fully get out of her system. So you see....people DO have very REAL allergies and have to be so very very careful when eating out.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I know men who suffer food intolerances and allergies lol, so it's not just us women.I felt sympathy with the girl who had an altercation with the waiter after he served her coffee with 'normal' milk. Many times in the past before I worked out what the problem was, a build up of eating too much of what I am intolerant to has left me too ill to eat or drink without bringing it back up or be able to sleep for over a week with the most incredible stomach spasms, and fever. I remember eating too much of a sweet mustard sauce with a meal a few years ago and ended up vomiting on the drive home and for a few days after. The smaller side effect of a slight build up, gas, is only uncomfortable and embarrassing but well worth avoiding when heading out for a meal if I want to make the most of my time. I really enjoyed reading a book called 'The Care and Feeding of the Irritable Bowel', it gave me so much more info than any health professional I've seen... The book mentioned that some of the issues with people having more dietary issues these days is likely partially due to the extra stress of living in the modern world. My problems were partially brought about 15 years or so ago by the high doses of anti-biotics I was taking which as we know destroys all the flora in our bellies, good and bad.Stress can bring on an attack. The body does not digest food properly, so low energy levels etc are normal.Peppermint is one of the things I've found can help settle my belly, even Tic Tacs and Kool Mints help. But the Mentos doesn't work for me at all. Heat bags work at soothing stomach spasms. Rescue Remedy can settle the emotions.Ciao 4 now... Mrs P'

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    As my original post explains, I have no doubt that these conditions do exist and that their affects are most uncomfortable. That said, I'm sorry to hear that you have some genuine dietary problems, and I apologise if I have upset you with my comments. That was not my intention.   The point of my post is really that the SELF-diagnosis of these conditions is way out of control, and that it makes life for a male on the dating scene pretty hard. It also gives the genuine sufferers, such as yourself, a bad name.   It frustrates me that for the sake of a few women and their "self-diagnosed" ailments, myself and my male mates were forced to sit in some dodgy "restaurant" that smelt like a billy-goat's nuts, and eat from a menu that was clearly put together by that same billy-goat. Yummy stuff. lol. Oh, and guess who whinged about the prices of the dishes? I'll give you a clue... Not one of the males!! Haha... Oh well...   Argh... Poor Ridge L   And just to clarify, the girl who has the so called lactose intolerance, and for whom you felt sympathy, went right ahead and drank her coffee... even with the knowledge that it was made with real milk from a real cow that moo's (apologies to the vegans). Probably not prescribed if you suffer from lactose intolerance. To her husband's knowledge she suffered no ill affect. But hey, if they can self-diagnose, surly they’re clever enough to self un-diagnosed when it suits... It’s pretty good coffee at that place ;)   So in a nutshell, there's nothing like making up medical condition in order to gain sympathy and attention... lol.   POWER TO THE BILLY-GOAT!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I will admit it, I am allergic to mushrooms.  Yes the humble mushy will send me violently ill.  It was the same with my father, just he ended up in hospital over it.  So I just make sure I don't eat the damn things.  If they are part of a dish, I either ask for it to be removed or make sure I don't eat it - simple and 99% effective.  For example, a few times at resturants I ended up with a mushroom sauce over steak.  As long as I don't eat the flesh I am kind of okay.  Just strapped everything off the steak and enjoyed.  Yes the mushroom jiuces will make me queasy but just that.   But I do have a beef (lol) about some people with regard to allergies.  I have been unfortunate enough to have met some (just counted, there were 4)  women in Sydney many years ago that had young children.  These delightful mothers all insisted their darling child had an allergy to "something".  For one is was the good old peanuts, two were lactose intolerant and the last could not eat anything with yeast.  But here comes the crux, there was nothing a matter with the children.  All four women had made up the allergies to ensure their darling child stood out in pre-school etc.  One admited to me she did it to show what a wonderful and caring mother she is - she knew her child would be mollycoddled at pre-school and the mother could make some rather outlandish demands about her daughter, thus nudging the mother up the social ladder.   Yes all these women were from the Eastern Suburbs, all wealthy. Yes it did sicken me, and yes I dumped all four after givng them a lecture on idiocy!   I have found some women put on an act when going out for a meal.  They won't eat red meet, the veggies have to be steamed etc.  I am not backward in coming forward it seems so I have began to ask they WHY!  Most have admitted they do eat normally but have found that some men will think they are health concious etc if they are careful of what they eat (again, a status symbol thing).   They funny thing is, most of these ladies are still willing to drink, whether it be wine, a cocktail etc, yet still insist on a strict diet to "keep their body pure" (as one said to me).  Apparently alcohol is socially acceptablem even to excess.  Hell give me a woman who scoffs down a steak over one who picks at a salad but gets drunk anyday!   My last point in this tome.  SMOKING!  Now I smoke and I don't hide the fact.  Before I meet someone I tell them I smoke.  If they are non-smokers, I won't bring my smokes along to the date (hell if I could sit in an aircraft for 8 hours in my old job without a smoke, a couple of hours at a date isn't a problem).   But the thing I have found is this.  The number of women I have met from the net who have stated in their profile that they don't smoke and want to meet a non-smoker, yet they contact me.  So I politely remind them that I did state in my profile that I smoke.  And then we meet, either they have their own smokes (and chain smoke during the date) or they proceed to beg ones off of me is becoming the norm.  Some do get upset when I tell them I don't have my smokes with me, a couple have even suggested I go and get them lol.   For those that are still awake at this stage, thank you for reading lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'mooka'   And then we meet, either they have their own smokes (and chain smoke during the date) or they proceed to beg ones off of me is becoming the norm.  Some do get upset when I tell them I don't have my smokes with me, a couple have even suggested I go and get them lol.There's some nasty women out there Mooka..... I feel dirty and have to shower for hours when I am used up by women who are just after sex on here.  I never thought that it could be worse and they could be out just to scab a smoke off me.  Name and Shame - it's a community service!

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I reckon many aussies should go live overseas sometimes...They will soon learn what good healthy foods are..   fook....wont eat this wont eat that...take the skin off my chicken...YA wont get skin off chicken in my house!  I dont eat dry meat......lol     And then they go eat cakes and icecreams!!!!   WTF....   real food hugs...   sweetpetite41

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Quoting 'au46305' Quoting 'mooka'   There's some nasty women out there Mooka..... I feel dirty and have to shower for hours when I am used up by women who are just after sex on here.  I never thought that it could be worse and they could be out just to scab a smoke off me.  Name and Shame - it's a community service!   I never said those women were from this site did I   Sweet, thoroughly agree with how some here would benefit from a more varied diet.  After 30 years in the military and travelling the world, I have eat some things I probably would rather forget.  When living in the USA for 3 years, we found we missed three types of food:   * Decent bread that actually went stale.  The normal bread had so much perservatives in it it was still "fresh" after a week in the cupboard and it was way too sweet and sugary.   * Lean mean, most of the American meat was marbled with fat.  Most Australians don't realise just how healthy we eat here.  I know marbled streak is more flavoursome but it did take a while to get use to eating fat.   * A decent sharp cheese.  Hell the cheese in the States was the most bland piece of plastic I had eaten.  Even their 'mature sharp cheddar' was about the same as our Coon lol  But what can you expect when most cheese is sold in a spary can ... !

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    No probs lol. Sorry I didn't make it clear at all that I wanted people to understand the situation from the point of view of someone with genuine food intolerances. That's all. It also gave me an opportunity to share a part of myself and maybe round out the picture of what makes me who I am, for people who 'know' Mrs P' in the forums hehehe. Not a topic I'd be 'bringing up' tho one I have wanted to.I didn't get the message from your post that it was entirely about self-diagnosis tho... I dunno, maybe your lady friends are precious but you said at least one had an actual allergy which is no laughing matter and not self diagnosed to my knowledge. Perhaps to save yourself the angst in future, it might be a good idea to offer to allow them to choose the venue considering they have particular needs and you are so easy going. I answered the part of your post below originally :-)...What’s going on with women today? Why can’t (or won’t) they eat anything?Ten years ago – no, make that just five years ago - women could eat anything on any menu. Why do we all of a sudden have all these eating dramas? Is it in their head? Have they conditioned their bodies to reject food after years of not eating and trying to be skinny? Is it a fad? Attention maybe? Or is it fair dinkum? If it is fair dinkum, why don't any men have these dramas?The really funny thing for me about your whole situation, which I do sympathise with, is that I don't pick restaurants by the food they serve so much as how comfortable I feel when I'm there. Get me a quiet table with my back to the wall and there's bound to be something on the menu that'll work for me. Stress causes me so much more discomfort than food really.I don't know your friend but I guess part of what I was trying to explain from my point of view is that, put simply, I can drink cows milk, eat cheese etc and some days it has no ill effect. I'm not allergic to it, just intolerant and my goal is to avoid having too much and suffering a reaction. There are foods I am more intolerant to than others and these I obviously go to more extreme to avoid. I likely would have drunk the coffee too, with or without the scene lolol. Re self diagnosis: what a laugh our medical system is. I woke up during my colonoscopy {only light sedation used for this procedure}, an operation performed to ascertain there is nothing 'physically' wrong with me to enable a dignosis of IBS. What a joke! What should I eat and not eat? A matter of trial and error in my case where I ended up removing everything I thought might be the problem and then returning them to my diet gradually to work out what I can eat. It changes too, depending on my stress, menstruation, the order I eat foods in. No baddies on an empty belly hehehe.BTW... I do enjoy a good tender, juicy steak... as long as it isn't too tough for my teeth!!! N beer is good but it's gotta be Midstrength because I can't take my piss...  Cheers... Mrs P'<<< enjoying her holiday at home!

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Food sensitivity (or food intolerance) is also responsible for unnecessary suffering in millions of people. Previously food intolerance was thought to be quite rare. But the medical evidence points to the opposite - it's rather common*. People who are unaware of their food intolerances - are at increased risk of serious diseases like diabetes, obesity, bowel cancer and arthritis - so it is important to investigate any chronic symptoms (the ones that never seem to go away).More @ http://www.foodintol.com/food_intolerance/food_intolerance.htmFood intolerance or non-allergic food hypersensitivity is a delayed, negative reaction to a food, beverage or food additive. It can involve symptoms in one or more body organs and systems, but is not a true allergy.Intolerance can result from the absence of specific chemicals or enzymes needed to digest a food substance, or from reactions to naturally occurring chemicals in foods.The precise distinction between food intolerance and a food allergy is often missed. A true food allergy requires the presence of IgE antibodies against the food. All other hypersensitivities or negative pharmacological reactions to foods can be considered food intolerances.More @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_intolerance

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    but...it still irritates the hell out of me! i really sympathise with you on that front ridge. we are so pampered here.   especially compared to where i spent the first 6 years of my life starving in the philippines when all we had to eat for weeks was just rice and water, and barely a cup of that a day! Spam or canned corn beef was considered the height of luxory and for special occasions only. The only regular source of protein was the monthly dried fish to flavour the rice and water or the occasional road kill of a pet.   I guess these days that's why I have an obssession with food, my pantry and fridge is always well stocked, a healthy portion of my budget goes to food and eating out, and I absolutely ABHOR waste and suffer from massive guilt trips whenever I or my friends waste food.   I admit that I have my dislikes, I hate capsicums and onions to the point of nausea and vomiting, especially capsicums, but I'll still eat them if they're cut small enough, or I just pick those out or try and order something that doesn't contain those as the primary ingredient.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Thanks for your response Casava. You're exactly the person I was hoping might get involved in this topic... And I'm glad it came from a female.   The average Australian female is extremely well pampered and spoilt rotten... especially if they're attractive... brains are optional. That's not their fault, but the fault of us males and the result of general social dynamics. Women have the one thing that all men ultimately want. They're a wake-up to that so they use it to their advantage. In that respect, females are indeed the dominant sex.   The ladies will debate those facts ferociously, but us males (at least those of us with any sort of ticker) will disagree with their protests... Lol. I can already hear the girls sharpening their claws, but deep down both sexes know it's the truth. Another debate for another day perhaps.   The first 6 years of your life, Casava, should be documented and made compulsory reading for all of the spoilt princesses I'm talking about in this forum (again, not the genuine cases). I think they'd then realise how good we have it in Australia, and they'd lose their painful attitude of self importance and their "Paris Hilton Syndrome". None of us can begin to imagine how difficult your life must have been in your early years, and it’s such a credit to you that you got through.   I have been fortunate enough to have done some foreign aid work myself, so I have seen how desperate peoples' situations can be in other parts of the world. Day to day survival is the order of the day, not what time the Myer Centre opens, or how much a GHD hair straightened costs. I saw it as a much needed and well overdue reality check that I needed, and perhaps everyone needs.   Just a little point of interest that’s of the topic... It's actually the Paris Hilton thing I mentioned earlier that makes men see women in the under 25 age bracket as just sex objects. They all dress the same and have exactly the same personalities. It’s actually very funny... lol. The same win on lines work on all of them, and they're so easy to get in the sack... hahahaha. Like I said, brains are optional... :P God bless em. But again... that's another topic for another day.   And yes... we're also a very wasteful society. An interesting statistic is that of all the food purchased by Australians, only 75% of it is actually consumed... the rest is chucked in the bin.

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    16 years ago

    Oh you poor, poor man Ridge...mmmmm....Steak..Rib, Rib Steak, T-Bone, Rump...all Grass fed..you can taste the difference...    I have 2 sis-in laws (1 ex, 1 current) who have self diagnosed their offspring as having allergies to certain foods (Wheat, Dairy, Peanuts).  I have never once witnessed a reaction to said allergens with these children after they have scoffed commercially made biscuits, chips, chocolate etc. No rashes, hives, asthma, vomiting or any other systemic reactions, certainly (thank god) no Anaphylactic shocks or Cardiovastic arrests .   Hmmm I wonder if these ladies carry antihistamines with them..just in case..or maye it is a case of a food intolerence..some foods can be tolerated in small portions without adverse reactions..   Ridge and Stalky..if you are ever up this way..come see me..I will cook you a nice big slab of prime New England grass fed Beef smothered with Bearnaise sauce (ooohh Eggs & Butter sauce) + chips..all washed down with Beer and Red Vino full of preservatives....

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Meat needs some fat....or else it is dry...ewwwwwwwwww   balance is the key and exercise..fook the donuts and cakes...BOOOOOOOOOO...   I would much rather have Yakiniku...lol....and a cold beer...now if I have a lovely gorge on a meal like that..I will go to kimchi...other veges and fruit and yougurt..for a cpl days..gotta treat ya self..lol...mind you I can live like that..I am used to it..   sweetpetite 41<<<  encourages more to eat kimchi..lol..YUM!!!

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    is that it sounds so judgemental to me without any actual facts to say that any of Ridge's lady friends did or didn't have any issues. All I hear is some guy whinging cos he had a hard time setting up a dinner... spare me!Quoting casava... i know some allergies are valid.... but...it still irritates the hell out of me!Allergies are not irritating, they are life threatening. It was the first years of my life that left me with the health issues mentioned earlier in this thread I never expect to get fully over. The operation at the age of 1 to enlarge my stomach after being found suffering from severe malnutrition... we all have our stories... I am glad you are left with choice unlike many of us irritating people.I'd love to be able to eat whatever was put in front of me instead of feeling like an all out freak and then hear from some poor man about what a hard time he had organising a meal... sounds rather passive aggressive to me... yes, yes, yes to their face and whinge, whinge, whinge behind their back. Stand up and be a man... instead of coming in here with your post designed to make people feel bad just because they have particular tastes... what does it have to do with you aside from what I hear was a bit of inconvenience.Yes this is Mrs P' on yet another pet topic...

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    far be it from me to comment on any persons eating habits.....i simply see it as none of my buisness that said thou......i thought you did a great job organizing a place where all could be comfortable your patience , i hope was apprieciated by your mates each to their own

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Was this always the case... or is it something new? Firstly folk had an opportunity to develop resistance, otherwise they died. Lots of diseases without effective treatment in the olden days. So one would expect that the survival of the fittest would have provided a modern day breed of people impervious to everything. Then science and modern medicine started saving youngsters who would otherwise die. Often with flawed development and fatal conditions. Everything from a hole in the heart to you name it. Tiny weak premature babies were kept alive, and then went on to reproduce. We now need science to correct the underlying genetic problems and prevent them from being passed on from generation to generation. This now looks like it will be achievable during our lifetime. Probably one of the worst aspects of history has been all the wars which slaughtered many of our fittest men. For example, guys who were deficient in some way did not go to war, they stayed home and bred. Hence short sightedness was bred more into the population. So we have a great tendency as a species to shoot ourselves in the foot... and its always the rulers who are responsible... and the people who follow like sheep. Otherwise tortured or imprisoned for not complying. Do hope we don't get too many more George W. Bushes in the future. "If you're not with us then you're against us", no matter how crazy he and his cohorts got. Fortunately we have many good learned people who are striving for advancements to improve our lot. Even if greed dictates that the planet be soiled for the selfish gains of a few over many. The population being slowly poisoned by toxic food additives, oil and chemical spills, pollution, asbestos and the many carcinogens. Sorry for the rant....

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    16 years ago

    Good valid points I thought eunuch. Deb

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    16 years ago

    Agree with what you say whole heartedly I also have a few pet peeves, like all these antibacterial wipes and crap like that,  how do parents expect kids to develop any sort of resistance and tolerance to common germs  if they try and cocoon their children in a sterile enviroment, and both Kerrie and i have noticed this in our larger extented family, the parents who cocoon their kids the most seem to have kids who are allways sick!  Overuse of anti biotics, and the plain fact that so many people and kids never get a bit of dirt on their hands, & panic about every little scratch. Cheers Nev

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Antibiotic over use and people not completing their prescribed course of treatment... allowing the weakened nasties to gain some immunity... by not knocking them on the head as the doctor intended. Too many antibiotics also kill off the bodies natural flora. Fully agree with you about keeping kids in cotton wool....

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hi Having to please women yet again, ask them to organise the booking then when you get there say it is not okay and wait for the response, no sex for a month. Your patience may have been appreciated by your mates as they probably had sex that night, all your effort and no reward, maybe the knowledge of helping your fellow man Lindemans have brought out a wine "early harvest" which is only 8.5% alcohol contectn and 30% less calories, best of all no preservative 220. It comes in a dry white, a sem sav blanc and now a sparkling. Helped me no ends with my headaches. I can drink more than one glass and not end up with a splitting head in a few hours, let alone the next day. dzynr

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I did year 12 last year and tonnes of girls I knew always skipped breafast every morning because it made them "feel sick". I could never get my head around this one. Some of them would hardly eat much at lunch time either. If you're gonna skip a meal each day then skip dinner, you don't need huge energy intake when you're going to bed in a few hours, but you definitely do when you're got a whole day ahead of you. The number of girls who are vego/vegan compared to guys is amazing too. I only know a few vego dudes, but loooooaaaaads of girls. I was a bit shattered when an ex girlfriend turned vego a few days before we started going out, I was looking forward to taking her to my fav chinese place for some roast duck but she ended up getting a plate of veggies and could only eat half of it. Very shattered indeed :PDead animals are so good....can't understand why so many people especially girls wont eat them.

  • amiira

    amiira

    16 years ago

    heya :)i've never understood the eating-mania with many girls myself either - perhaps it has something to do with the idea that if you eat a lot you are considered 'unhealthy' or in danger of getting fat. personally i love cooking and eating good food, and i don't see the point in making yourself feel guilty for enjoying the most basic of human pleasures - eating. (the same could be said for sex, as well ;)) i eat like a horse and i'm not afraid or embarassed because of it.but here, as in most other things, moderation and quality is the key - i can think of nothing yummier than a medium-rare steak with salad and chips, but i also adore salads and will stick with the lighter option when i know that i've over-indulged a little before. i adore chocolate (milk, white, dark, mousse, pralines, fondue, bodypaint, etc...), but i don't have to have it every single day. in fact, a little discipline can make giving in so much sweeter. (again, same can be said for sex... anyone spot the theme here?) so girls, for heaven's sake, eat up and don't feel guilty! just be sensible and make sure what you eat is good quality food, not junk.lv blinky