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Public Nasties

January 24 2012

I was having a D&M with a very good male friend recently and he said something that I really couldn't refute.   "If men spoke publicly and in mixed company about women the way women speak about men, the world would be littered with the broken bodies of men"   I think he's right, i hear women make nasty, condescending and sexist comments all the time with men standing right there! It is a generalisation or is it more often the case than not. In my experience I have rarely if ever heard men woman bash in a public setting but I have heard it many, many times from women. Nearly at every social gathering wether there are men there or not.   We all know that there is plenty of cause on both sides to do so but why is it necessary even if there is cause. Is it just blowing off steam? If so, why in front of the gender that you're speaking about. Please understand, I think every one has done it at least once in their life, i'm certain I have. The issue is not blame here the issue is why and why not only publicly, but in front of them?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Well, there's one in every village, so the saying goes. Some people have sand in their vagina and busting to pick an argument so that they can fulfill their prophesy that all men are bastards. It feeds their self justification for being a cunt. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Too harsh Stalky. Yes, goodgirlz it has become acceptable for woman to man bash, although normally done in a joky way. And do men defend themselves? Not always, whereas women always defend ourselves and our sex loudly. Not sure why that is? Maybe men don't really care? Or they are too scared to comment. (I really wanted to say that they are pussies but didn't want Stalky calling me a cunt.)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I think that's because they have been taught not to defend themselves against women to some degree, raised as gentlemen. Also Why should they constantly be forced to defend themselves against potentially unjustified attack delivered in publicly in the form of a passive aggressive "joke". And who is it funny to? Apparently not to them? They would be verbally torn to shreads if they called us a bunch of rude aggressive bitches wouldn't they?   Just asking the question. Sure, you can not like someone just because they bug you as a person but that's different

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I don't know Goodgrl. Doesn't worry me if someone calls me a bitch... And I am always prepared to listen. Well at least I hope I am. But I do know what you mean, I thunk women get carried away when they are in a group. Do you think?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    But how does it sound to the person listening to that when you are talking about them or their gender? Apparently, and now that i look at it upon reflection, we don't care that they are listening or what they feel about what we have said.   My friend just got me thinking. navel gazing

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Well, most people have been hurt by the opposite sex at one point or another which can makes us a cynical at times. That is both men and women. I think woman vocalise their feelings and disappointments more freely then men. But at the end of the day, I agree that when men go off about women it is frowned upon where as a women going off about men is somehow okay. Or do I only say that because I am a woman? Maybe.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    ...and unfortunately until it passes, men bashing both broad spectrum and the more insulting directives is "socially acceptable" and/or "politically correct". I can recall a few conversations around the water cooler at the office where the men were taking some pretty cheap shots at their wives, girlfriends et al...but I looked more at the source as the problem and particularly so if I happen to know the significant other and thought she was quite delightful. | I enjoy the daylights out of teasing with women like you, GG and several others here in this venue...even the mighty munchkin and her six inch long ass blaster, but that's really all in good fun and I think or hope we all get a laugh out of it. I do believe too that women are far more likely to "kiss and tell" than are men....hell, we want to keep the good stuff on the shelf as private reserve! | Do I personally take offense at it...can't be bothered, as how and what people do or act is about them anyway and not about me. You can only fix the world one person at a time and the best one to start with has always been...me. | ...if you point a finger remember, there are three pointing back at you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Yeah the usual man bash in the kitchen at parties I try and avoid, ummm hello, there's no boys in the kitchen I know someone who constantly humiliates her husband in front of others and it's disgraceful, especially when he actually is a very nice person.....and the flipside is another couple where the (now ex) husband would belittle his wife into the absolute ground by saying how fat and stupid she was in front of everybody. Both are disgraceful and horrible examples of people staying together who shouldn't. The usual teasing and banter I take with a grain of salt, especially if it's meant that way, but when it's done to deliberately hurt and humiliate....then that's not cool at all.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Oooh we do LOVE to kiss and tell...but weirdly enough on the extremely rare occassion that i don't have anything nice to say i still try to be as kind as possible and certainly never with the person right there. But we luuuurve to talk about the great times we enjoy with boys who are 'friends'. Love to compare notes and learn new tricks from a more "worldy" gal pal but that's different. How am i bringing up my boys? To respect women and treat them with kindness, my friends with daughters are not telling their daughters to respect men and treat them with kindness i can assure you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    It's the stuff that's done unthinkingly, just blabbed out with all diplomacy and thoughfulness completely lacking without even realising that the guys are around.   Meh....babbling. Time to hit the hay. Enough navel gazing for tonight

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Certain things get certain people down if they think about it too much, concentrate on what you CAN fix or do something about. They may have a reason? who knows....constant disappointment may lead to flippancy with the old tact....or even just an over estimation that everyone gets their humour....geez I dunno . But what would I know really? I'm tactless with men and women, doesn't mean I'm deliberately trying to hurt them though in the same breath. . If your friends are raising men haters, in their daughters, is there some other reason behind it, you may not know about? Anyone who gets their children involved in their own hate campaign clearly isn't thinking straight??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    If they don't even realise the guys are around???? aren't they just getting girly support for something they probably think is whinge worthy? I'm confused now, lol, not too hard really.

  • Paradisepair

    Paradisepair

    14 years ago

    I've been to north Queensland. Some of the men there were certainly ungentlemenly in conversation to both their women and ones they didn't know.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    the women that do it are not ladies just like the men that do it are not a gentlemen.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I asked a different guy about this, just to try and get more than one opinion. His answer was...." We're used to women trashing men, our mothers and aunts and grandmothers have been doing it ever since we can remember. Women trash males, that's the way of the world and most of the time we just wipe it off as chick blowing off steam or the male equivelant of chest beating.....maybe even at times, thwarted omnipotence. Occassionally it is unpleasant but mostly we're used to it, we've never known anything else."   Interesting

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    They save it for when they are with the boys. Lets face it men will behave that way to what they consider a fat unattractive women, loud and long in the pub. Ever been a barmaid? They do not say it in front of a woman for a few reasons. One she may be a bit of a smart mouth and make him feel like a dill in front of his mates. 2) he may just want to wait till he has his beer goggles on and decided she is worth porking after all. And most of all on this forum,care factor is O for most of the men on rhp. They would rather have their cock in your mouth to shut you up than sit here ,hanging on pearls of wisdom. Most are bored shitless and to respond to some comment by a woman here or in reality is of little significance to them. Women on the other hand take it all to heart, and even more so when its another woman slinging the shit. I do shit can men at times, hey guess what its normal to vent, I do not think all creatures with nuts are idiots nor do I think that all twats are twits. But I like the fact I can speak my mind even though at times a ball gag would be a good fashion accessory for me. Men hardly talk to each other , not even when they have been shafted by a woman and are crushed and wounded. As for the comment passive aggressive, I think that’s over worked like an old door handle to the shitter in a Indian cafe Quaker s and Gandhi and soldiers who do not want to participate use it. Its use is not always as people think a negative response. There is no tone on this forum, no facial expression , so people can interpret things how ever they please. How about women having a go at each other on the forum? I do not think either gender has the patent on rudeness. The thing I really detest is that people make assumptions about a person character by some trite remarks on an internet forum,. Then its she said he said, its even worse in a chat room a place I went into one, once or twice on this forum and would rather regurgitate my own vomit and have it on toast the next day.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Paradisepair' I've been to north Queensland. Some of the men there were certainly ungentlemenly in conversation to both their women and ones they didn't know. I lived many years in Far North Qld and consider myself of a particularly chivalrous nature- and all my mates too- I believe there are as many per capita peanuts in sydney, adelaide (especially adelaide) , melbourne etc as there are in the country areas. this would include both men and women. Besides a man is taught to defend himself physically and this is not permissable toward women. so whats left? NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP OR I"LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER!!!!! * turning the other cheek now*

  • Paradisepair

    Paradisepair

    14 years ago

    It was over 20 years ago so I'm sure things have changed. I was pretty shocked though at some if the conversations that went in around me. And yes, you can't generalize about any one type of person.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I think some people are just rude in general...they think its their right to speak their mind...paying no heed to how what they say is received...because they are only interested in having their say.But on the other hand...there are some people that take offense at everything...whether it was intended that way or not.And then there are those who think before they speak...who try to have an opinion without being opinionated....who try to accept what others say without being offended...and who generally would rather agree to disagree than have an all out war.Ah humans....what a confusing bunch we are!!BJ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    ...and if there's war between the sexes, then there will be no people left.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Must admit in my social crowd we all give as good as we get - male or female. All in good fun of course but overall I reckon the passive aggressive, nastier stuff comes out from the married wives... We all laugh at it at the time but when we go on our "Boys" nights out the husbands absolutely hate it - especiallywhen its done in front of their kids.   As I am now divorved i just smile and say well theres one solution - communicate and fight back - worked for me!! Umm hold on - no it ddint!!

  • contemplating1

    contemplating1

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred' (part)   There is no tone on this forum, no facial expression , so people can interpret things how ever they please. How about women having a go at each other on the forum? I do not think either gender has the patent on rudeness. The thing I really detest is that people make assumptions about a person character by some trite remarks on an internet forum,. Then its she said he said, its even worse in a chat room a place I went into one, once or twice on this forum and would rather regurgitate my own vomit and have it on toast the next day.     So true, and gee its something I have noted here at tomes as well. Have a good 'un!